akflyer added a topic in Hardcore Avidfoxflyershey Mr. cant play nice with othersare ya bored yet LMAO.. sorry, just had to get a dig in. It is a sumbitch when you see something on there that you just have to shout out about........ and cant reply huh..
Thats ok, you cant be banned over here, I dont play well with others and love a good fight (read "discussion")
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84KF added a topic in Avid fox flyers pics and vidsinclineometer gauge installed....The plane sits at a +14 degree attitude (indicated)....., no test flight yet.
I know a piece of tape in the corner of the windshield would show the reference to the horizon just the same...but what the heck. Totally frivolous for sure, but it's probably safe to say no other Kitfox has one installed.
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84KF added a topic in Avid fox flyers pics and vidsA picture for float-boy.....ehhh.. I mean Leni.This is how I spent my Sunday.... Annual time, before it gets dragged 1/2 mile through the woods and across a highway to the lake access
J-3 with a 90hp continental.... don't know specific anything about the floats.... but you float guys will.
I rode in it once a few years back, my only float experience to date.
What I remember most was the first landing in a local lake..... it just seemed totally unnatural to be bobbing around on the water, but sitting in a airplane.
But I could get used to it.... (it WAS fun)
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84KF added a topic in Avidfoxflyers General HangarAnother rebuttal.....Jay & Beverly to kitfox-list
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay & Beverly"
"It would be nice if current TO weight could be used. If this were the case I think there would be more normal category aircraft available to sport pilots. If the TO weight can be used, the authorities that have that information are treating it like a state secret. I think AOPA, EAA, and anyone with a normal category aircraft for sale that has a weight just above 1320 would have banner headlines with that information."
"It would be nice if current TO weight could be used"
Some one is not paying attention.....
"If this were the case I think there would be more normal category aircraft available to sport pilots"
No, because the empty weight of these aircraft would put them over the weight limit when all else is figured in.
Once again, from http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/sport_rule.pdf page 44793:
"Some commenters stated that lacking a definition of maximum takeoff weight, aircraft with fairly high performance characteristics could meet the definition of light-sport aircraft by limiting the approved weight and payload of the airplane. The FAA considers this a valid concern and has provided some additional constraints on the weight as detailed below.
The maximum weight of a light-sport aircraft is the sum of:
(1) Aircraft empty weight;
(2) Weight of the passenger for each
(3) Baggage allowance for each
(4) Full fuel, including a minimum of
the half-hour fuel reserve required for
day visual flight rules in § 91.151(a)(1).
Take any certificated aircraft, and using the data in it's TCDS do the math, and see for yourself.
Now, you won't find "empty weight" in a TCDS, because it varies from aircraft to aircraft. Do some research, find the typical empty weight of any certificated aircraft NOT on the list, apply the "formula" and see that they are unable to meet the definition.
Faa link.... http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/light_sport/media/existing_models.pdf
EAA link... http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/sport_aircraft.html
One will not find any certificated aircraft not on the list, that would be otherwise.
These boys (FAA) did their homework on this one...they have all bases covered.
"If the TO weight can be used, the authorities that have that information are treating it like a state secret"
The "information" has been available since July 24, 2007.
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84KF added a topic in Avidfoxflyers General HangarOpps...my apologies The site is stiil there...And in all fairness, here is the link... http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmfaqs.asp?topicid=12
It just didn't google for me as usual... my bad.
Anyway, here is the link to the post in question.... and the reply that mentions the "well, if you ever exceed...."
Also, Mr. Norris depends on twisting the facts, such as
..."This verbiage clearly says that an aircraft must meet all the criteria called out in the definition of an LSA at the time of its original certification AND CONTINUOUSLY thereafter....", which is intended to apply to TCDS aircraft only, as stated in the final rule... found under
Modifications of Aircraft To Meet the Light-Sport Aircraft Definition
As stated above in the
section titled ‘‘Modifications of Aircraft
To Meet the Light-Sport Aircraft
Definition,’’ a sport pilot may not fly an
aircraft with a standard airworthiness
certificate that has been modified to
meet the light-sport aircraft definition.
Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 143 / Tuesday, July 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations 44793
It doesnt say ANY aircraft, it states aircraft with a standard airworthiness
The problem is one must read the rule first or they wouldn't know this.....
I have nothing to hide.
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84KF added a topic in Avidfoxflyers General Hangartwo faced...or what??Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Series 5 Light Sport
SOMEONE has finally gone the distance and found some
DEFINITIVE information. (I hope.) Jay, may we have a source for this
quote? I'd like to know who it came from so we can ascertain their credentials.
Now before anyone thinks I was rooting either way, I wasn't
and I'm not. Indeed I hoped that Steve was right and that he would
publish definitive proof sooner or later. All I wanted was data, not opinion.
San Diego, CA
What a crock.... What is more definitive then the FAA itself, and http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/sport_rule.pdf
"Now before anyone thinks I was rooting either way...."
"All I wanted was data, not opinion."
Here's your friggin data Guy..... http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/sport_rule.pdf
As I said before... "the Pope Himself......."
"Indeed I hoped that Steve was right...."
"may we have a source for this quote?"
Naturally, any quote found on the Internet will take precedent over the FAA....in Guys mind.
(find the reference to Joe Norris elsewhere on this site. ) Note: Joe Norris is NOT the EAA, just someone who wrote for them, and got it wrong. I don't fault the EAA in general, just the dribble Norris published at one time.
PS...It would be nice if it was pointed out to "list" readers that I am unable to reply or respond to Guys comments there due to ...whatever. Not a very fair way to spread information. Sort of childish....
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akflyer added a topic in Avidfoxflyers General Hangarok guests what do you want to see hereI know there are alot of lurkers and guests poking around here, and I am wondering what it will take to get you to post up.
Dont be afraid to say or do anyting that will get you banned here.. within and very few rules nothing is gonna get you banned, we may hack on you a little but not too bad.
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