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Hi Joey, it definitely is Joanne's plane. I haven't talked to her in a few years now, last I recall she was having some medical issues that made flying uncomfortable for her.

Must be Joanne Heckmans Avid. She was a huge contributor to the Yahoo group and the Avid Comm letters. Wonder whatever happened to her Avid adventure.

I like it, maybe a simple black leading edge strip on the wings? Those smashed bugs really stand out on yellow wings!

sounds good when it gets here Ill let you know

If it was sand blasted, you didn't need to use an etching primer before the epoxy primer. I generally sand blast then go straight to epoxy primer. Almost all direct to metal epoxy primers have an etching acid built into the hardener. Infact some epoxy primers will not adhere to a wash type primer.

Tons of info available on the Rotax owners website. http://rotax-owner.com/en/support-topmenu/engine-manuals

TJay, let me know if you need a LED bargraph trim indicator for use with that servo. I bought one to replace the old style 3-Light indicator in my KF4 but my trim servo was not compatible wiring wise. Ray Allen RP3 I think it is, new never used.

Hi Bill,

Looks like you're getting nowhere fast with this question, maybe I can help. One of the first Avid owners in my area that I spoke to when I was researching kit planes waaaay back when, was a model C Aerobat builder. I posted a copy of an article about her build you may want to read, as I believe it included her performance #'s (link below). Coincidentally, I think the plane was listed for sale recently in the classifieds here which may provide you with a means to contact the owner. Best regards.

Doug

http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?/topic/706-perseverance-avid-aerobat-builder-joanne-heckmann/?p=4021

Bill,

I've got some papers on doing aerobatics in the Aerobat - Donno if it has the same wing, and donno if these papers give any stall info along with how to do the maneuvers - I've only flown Kitfox, and a lot of certified birds. I don't think you will stall at more than 50 with the short wings, and maybe closer to 40, but again, weight is a factor. IMO, the best way is to take it up and get close to a stall, and go by whatever your ASI tells you, adding in some for varying conditions.

Heavy planes don't have as much variation in stall speeds with different weights as these light ones.

EDMO

Proper use of flaps might make a big difference in your speeds, climb rate?

I bought one, offered him $30 bucks and got it, If it doesn't work it wont be the worst 30 bucks I spent. I think he has 2 left. Thanks for posting that link

try this

http://www.wingconcept.com/pdfs/RepairManual582UL.pdf

Thanks for the reply Ed. I've heard numbers on the speedwing all over the chart. I just don't want to be touching down at 60mph in this type of plane.

Thanks

Bill

Bill,

The J3 stalls about 32 to 35 indicated. Some say with VGs they stall at 27?

Someone said that Leni AkFlyer has flown both - Donno if he is on the north slope, or just real busy - maybe you will get an answer from him someday.

Flying off of a 3500 runway at sealevel, I wouldn't worry about a slight increase in approach / stall speeds, but might have some thoughts about a lack of climb compared to the STOL wings. Weight also has a lot to do with all the above.

EDMO

Nobody has flown a standard speedwing? The specs are showing about a 10mph speed difference for both cruise and stall. Is this accurate? Showing a stall speed on the speedwing as only 42mph. Is this a bit optimistic?

Thanks

Bill

Yep, headed back this summer.  Watched that video before and it's just to soon to get my juices flowing with summer so far away.  I went on Father's Day last year and we had some snow to deal with, think I will shoot for July this year.  What a great area!

I remember the story about that plane when it happened - Believe the guy owned the worlds smallest plane and then made this one even smaller - Didn't remember that paint job tho - should have had STOL wings?

Thanks for posting -

I don't blame you for not wanting any more paint to do - I'm not a painter either - serves me well tho - I showed my wife how sloppy I could be with paint, and she don't even ask me to paint anything in the house!

EDMO

Thanks guys I ordered the low priced one and saved the $100 bucks. It's not leaking much and would be fine to let it leak but I can use the project.

I would HIGHLY suggest you look up engine rebuild or decarbon on rotax 503 or 582 (essentially the same general way of doing it, just on different engines). Lots of good info if you look. To reinstall the needle bearings you need to get some white engine assembly lube. It is a heavy grease to hold the needles and acts like a glue of sorts. I made an aluminum plug the size of the wrist pin but only long enough to support the needles and spacers. As the plug gets pushed out by the wrist pin the needles should stay in place. That way the needles have plenty of lube at start up and until you can get some two stroke mix down into the wrist pin area. Make sure you count the number of needles (31 if I am not mistaken) a mistake here will trash an engine quick. Just be careful and go slow and you should be fine.

Mark

ps best info on 582 I have found. http://www.aerofixaviation.co.uk/rotax-582-strip-service-rebuild.shtml    

Thanks Ed,

I'm sick of painting! Im not very good at it and I found it nerve racking! Maybe it is different with an all aluminum aircraft where you can make mistakes and sand them off without worrying about sanding through fabric. There are just so many variables in painting, and I think the only counter to those is experience. I'm glad I got some experience, but Im also glad Im past that hurdle.

I'm partners in this plane with my Father, who split the kit cost with me...and somehow I get to do all of the work? But he was absolutely against the "Super Bee" idea, but I think it is growing on him!

It sounds like the Bee plane you are talking about went all out!

I can't help but think of the world's smallest biplane when talking about Bees...

Hard to believe this thing actually flew! However, it was a short lived victory, the guy put a bigger engine in it and the engine quit, probably vapor lock, he crashed, and survived but with some major injuries. the Smithsonian Channel was running a show with the flight footage of this plane, it was amazing!

I just went to the Ray Allen site, and it says his servos are 12 - 14 volts. Looks like his price is $145 as well. Jim Chuk

I used an inexpensive one with good results.

just ran across these servos and thought someone might have a need for one, thats a whole lot cheaper than what I paid http://www.ebay.com/itm/Experimental-Aviation-Linear-Servos-MAC-1-16-second-40lb-Pull-NEW-Aircraft-/111608924415?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item19fc6908ff&vxp=mtr

EDMO

Kool paint job Ron,

There is a doctor here in St. Louis who has his Cessna 172 painted like a bumblebee from nose to tail - even has eyes - stands out in a crowd.

Assembly is the last fun part before flying. Cant wait to see it all together.

Good Flying,

EDMO

just ran across these servos and thought someone might have a need for one, thats a whole lot cheaper than what I paid http://www.ebay.com/itm/Experimental-Aviation-Linear-Servos-MAC-1-16-second-40lb-Pull-NEW-Aircraft-/111608924415?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item19fc6908ff&vxp=mtr

Well, it's official...I'm finished painting!!!

I painted the stripes on the fuselage today and if the weather will cooperate I will roll everything outside and tear down my spray booth so I have some room to start putting her back together.

I'm going with a "Super Bee" theme and decided use vertical stripes like the WWII Army Air Corp gliders and cargo aircraft.

I like how it turned out...different...