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We built ours with an extended HH speedwing and love it. still very dirty (no fairings anywhere lots of gaps to fill still) and it performs well for its current configuration- empty weight 526 lbs rotax 582 w B box and ivo 68" 3 blade. I've only made it out once since the new prop so don't have to many real numbers yet but I can easily be on and off the ground in 500' solo I'm seeing 1000 fpm climb and 80-85 indicated with my wife and 20 gal of fuel we still climb out at 600 fpm and cruise at 75 indicated. once I get the leading edge cuffs, fairings, and gap seals on I will see even better. only have about 45 hrs TT so far but we are happy with it. Note all of these numbers are without flaps I still haven't played with them too much. I believe leni has flown both wings and has liked both. I'm sure he will share his experience. 

Thanks for posting the link. I have sent my letters.

Can anyone help out my friend Ray in Cloverdale, CA, who needs a sign-off to then give instruction in his Rotax582 powered 2 seat Quicksilver?

He's at

rshipway@bridgedeck.org

Once he has this, likely he'll be a good resource for new Avid/Kitfox flyers.....

Wayne

after looking at it I have realized I need to mount the lower half on a hinge, The reason is right now when folding the wings the flaperon clears the cam-lock by 1/16 of an inch, now if I was to mount a plastic bearing that sticks up another 3/8th of an inch higher than the cam-lock, which is what would be needed to have the bearing hole in the center of the fleperon horn, when I fold the wing the flaperon would just slam in to the plastic or I would have to twist the trailing edge of the wing up 5/16th of an inch to clear the bearing,  thanks for the replies.

Most complain about how they land not how they takeoff or fly. Cruise performance is within 10 mph of the STOL wing with a much higher stall and approach speed. Just what I've read and heard no actual experience.

If you see a Standard Avid for sale most of the time it is a speedwing or a Subaru powered Avid. I have flown a extended 582 powered Avid and have flown in a Subaru powered Fat Avid, those airplanes flew great. Never have flown a regular speedwing.

Never had any trouble with them when folding the wings.

English Lesson:

Politics:

Poly means many

Ticks are blood-sucking parasites

They will steal your money any way they can, and spend $3 for every $1 they can steal.

EDMO

....much like they have done with tobacco!

Bill,

I would like to hear from those who have flown both wings to get an accurate comparison.

I have never flown the Speedwing, but we flatland flyers don't need the VSTOL that the sandbar and pothole flyers need. A little speed gain is good for longer trips, but maybe cuts down on GW, and is a few mph faster on landings?

My buddy who owns the J3 keeps wanting to do something to slow down his stall speed - I keep telling him that he needs a drag chute to get any slower! It lands slower than the shortwing Pipers, but sure don't cruise as fast.

EDMO

It would seem that we are screwed. Question is..... what can be done to rectify the situation....?? Guess I am banned already with this line through my text.......

You must have a strange computer - Mine don't know how to put a line thru text.

Banned? I doubt that, since Oh Bummer is not a member on here - He has been badmouthed before on here, but you never know what the Feds can do - I Don't think Leni would do that!

Most of us would probably agree with you anyway.

I think he is the worst since Abe Lincoln who killed 600,000 Americans, and bankrupted the country!

EDMO

The floats have been sold.

Things to do when you got the cash! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKWvRU-879w

Supported.... Done.

Hi all I'm finishing the construction of a newly acquired avid model c speedwing and I've noticed on this website most say to either extend the wing or go with the HH or STOL wing. Curious why this is? I'm flying out of a 3500' grass runway out of Florida so stol is not needed. Would prefur speed over stol. For those that have flown the standard speedwing what are your thoughts?

Thanks

Bill

I don't understand why the dumb ass doesn't just charge a little more tax on stuff like that, then it would be ok to have it. Right? look at Marijuana it was illegal for all those years but if they can tax it, its all the sudden OK. Its all a bunch of BS in my book. Hope they don't take away my rights to own my .308 savage. that's my favorite gun.

 

its finished and only took 20 hrs to do. Have to do the bearing yet but that's for another day.

It would seem that we are screwed. Question is..... what can be done to rectify the situation....?? Guess I am banned already with this line through my text.......

I've looked into this one more.... it seems alaska is the only state you can get away with it as far as the faa is concerned aa we have a clause that allows a private pilot to fly fishing and hunting clients. It basically says that the flying part of the fishing or hinting is not a paid service, it is "incidental" to the trip. Your paying for the fishing or hunting part of the trip, the guy is just a nice guy and happens to give you a ride in his plane to gather you there and back. The FAA said that much to their frustration, in alaska, as long as he notifies the clients that the plane they are riding is a home built experimental, the client then assumes the responsibility to say yes or no to the ride. There is nothing they can do about using an experimental plane for flying fishing or hunting clients.

The board of game can yank his guide license for unethical treatment of the clients, fish and game can hit him for wanton waste... but we can use our experimental planes to guide fishing and hunting clients all we want!

Local gun store sold 12K rounds of .558 the day the announcement to ban them came out

I goofed and forgot to plan ahead on my wiring so i just routed it out the side just above where the strut attaches to the fuse and routed it up the rear strut and back to the servo. has worked for about 45 hrs so far with no issues. eventually I will fair them like Joey has done and this will protect the wiring. Structurally its probably fine to drill into the elevator my concern would be that it would allow moisture into the tubing which would cause rust problems over time I would stay away from it. I would recommend opening it all up like Joey has done and extending it while your at it. The fabric work is really easy and if you can't weld it yourself I bet it would not cost much to have a shop weld it up if you prefabed all the tubing. heck if you were near me I would be more than happy to help. 

When you get my age, you will know to go buy your wife a new cutting board, if she has a nylon one - Tell her that you are going to recyle the old one, and she will be so happy with you - or buy two, then you take the other one out to your plane!

EDMO

BTW: After hearing that Oh Bummer was outlawing some .223 ammo, I went to Walmart and bought my wife a new vacuum cleaner, and 200 rounds of ammo. She was so happy!

EDMO

Ed, seriously where you before with this one. a cutting board!!! thats a lot cheaper than buying raw materials. I wonder if my wife would notice that the cutting board is just a bit shorter hmmm. I should probably check the thrift store first

I hard mounted mine by riveting it to the tab welded on the fuselage it clears when folding but not by much, (I have already dinged my flapperons on it grrr) If i were to do it again, and I may redo it, I would use a small hinge to fold it down out of the way when folding the wings. also my kit had aluminum for the bearings I would use some sort of synthetic material. 

 

-Robert-

Nylon, Teflon, Cheap cutting board from wife's kitchen or Walmart - Probably Walmart is safer!

EDMO