banjoplayer added a topic in Fat Avids, Avid Plus and AirdaleJabiru 3300 in Fat AvidHey guys,
Just an update on where I am with my Fat Avid
I am registered with the MD-RA with my "Letter of Intent" to build an amateur home-built aircraft and have received acknowledgement from them.
I am now waiting for them to come up here during the first week of March, to confirm the "Major Portion" requirement which will allow me to start work.
All I have done so far is remove the covering from the Horizontal Stab, Elevator and have started uncovering the wing (needed for the "Precover Inspection")
Oh yeah and the other thing I did was move everything except the fuselage into the basement.
Getting all those parts past the wife has been the hardest part so far.
The fabric was glued down with the Stewart's System and was a brute to get off.
A call to Stewart's indicated that although lacquer thinner or MEK will soften the glue, heating it gently with a torch and then sandblasting is the easiest way to remove it.
I have experience working with the Poly Fiber system (repairs to my Challenger II) and will likely end up going with what I know.
This is my first full cover job and I like the idea of being able to wash away any mistakes with MEK and being able to start over clean.
It's a more "odorific" procedure, but one I understand.
As for my question:
I have been pondering which engine to install in this thing.
The realistic options available are:
1) Rotax 582 (least expensive install - up front cost)
2) Jabiru 2200 (used with "lowish" hours and / or re-buildable)
3) Jabiru 3300 (used with "lowish" hours and / or re-buildable)
4) Subaru EA81 (used with "lowish" hours and / or re-buildable) -- although I can't find any useful information on a Subaru conversion and Stratus seems to not exist anymore
Much further down my list are the VW conversions eg: Aerovee, Great Plains, Revmaster etc.
I think, unless someone wills me a Rotax 912, it is out of the question due to price and the reluctance for Rotax to sell engine parts.
I come from a family of engine rebuilders that have been in business for 50 + years and have all the resources available to me to completely rebuild anything I can buy parts for.
I was also self employed for 4 years doing restorations and engine rebuilding on vintage American and British motorcycles, and am very familiar with low weight high horsepower engines
Constructing the plane as amateur home-built allows me to do all the work on the power-plant myself ... and I am OK with this and trust my abilities.
The question I have is regarding "Installed Weight " of the engine I choose.
I currently have found a Jabiru 3300 with a full avionics package I can purchase nearby and was wondering if this could be a candidate?
Has anyone had experience with a Jabiru 3300 in an Avid Plus or similar size aircraft.
Is this simply too much engine?
The Rotax 582 installed weight is about 110 lbs
The Jabiru 2200 is about 142 lbs
The Jabiru 3300 is about 181 lbs.
I have no idea what the Subaru weighs but it seems to have a following, without current support from a manufacturer of aircraft grade components?
These weights include exhaust, radiators, air filters, electric starter, carburetors etc.
I would appreciate anyone's opinions on the above engines, or ..... other recommendations?
My plan for this plane is strictly recreational flying, but do plan to install floats on it once the Challenger is gone.
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banjoplayer added a topic in Introduce yourselfNew Fat Avid ownerGood Day All:
I figure it is time to surface on this forum.
I am Jim Rainbow and have just purchased an Avid Plus project from a Barnstormers ad.
Some info about me:
I reside in Uxbridge Ontario Canada (about 50 Kilometres or 30 miles NE of Toronto)
I am currently in the process of getting my license and have about 20 hours of lessons behind me and am loving the sport, as I knew I would.
As well as me taking lessons so are my 2 sons and soon to be Son In Law in a Challenger 2 I purchased 3 years ago which needed about 18 months worth of repairs before I could fly it.
Did a lot of work to it including repainting the fuselage after some hefty fabric repairs due to the local squirrel population taking up residence int the fuse and wings.
The Challenger is rated as Basic Ultralight in Canada which places some restrictions on its operation which I am not prepared to live with once I have my license,
The Avid is the next step for me having been approved by Transport Canada to be imported to Canada as aircraft parts and registered as a "new" amateur built aircraft, which allows me to fly without helmets and carry passengers, it also allows me to fly into the US (Oshkosh here I come !!!)
My plan is to have the Avid finished in 1 1/2 to 2 years. Which is coincidentally when I will have no further use for the Challenger as I believe by the end of this summer (2014) we will all be licensed, I then want to install the Amphibian Floats on the Challenger over the winter of 2014 /2015 and get some training for all of us on water before getting rid of the Challenger and start flying the Avid.
In my head this schedule seems to work.
Enough about me and now about the project.
I have purchased the following:
Airdale Fuselage (This is the fuselage owned originally by Mark Schindler a current member listed in the builders list)
Avid Mark IV Wings, Horizontal Stab and Elevator from a previously flown MK IV with Heavy Hauler Wings
Grove Landing Gear with Matco Brakes
A Large Roll of Dacron purchased by Mark S
The project is going to require a complete recover and paint (which I am really looking forward to as I love spray painting as a hobby), the fitting of the wings, and Horizontal Stab and Elevator to the new fuse along with all the other things I will have to do once our inspection agency sees it.
(See Pictures Below)
Anyway, I am sure I am going to get lots of use from this forum and look forward to sharing the journey from what I have to what I see flying in my minds eye.
My plan is to update my progress via a photo journal of sorts.
Hope to interact with you all soon
PS I DO play banjo .... don't hold it against me.
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