[dholly]

I can tell you CWA and APL are not economical options from the east. You can try Fond du Lac but I'm guessing that won't be an option either unless you're hopping in on a small regional jet. Last year the one-way from upstate NY to Madison, WI was c-h-e-a-p, only ~$70, about the same as to MKE or GRB. Gotta change planes in Detroit anyway, and it ends up same time but easier to connect into rural and much smaller Madison. All are about the same distance road wise to OSH w/ car rentals but word to wise... if flying commercial into any of these without a ride to OSH, reserve your rental NOW or you will be SOL. There are daily shuttles to OSH from MKE, GRB, APL and FDL if necessary, but not from MSN. Do NOT attempt to play it by ear, so to speak, unless you like to be frustrated. There is a serious s#!t load of people at OSH every year and the experienced ones have all the available resources reserved months in advance. If you're gonna go, 1st timers are advised to check the Planning info at http://www.airventure.org/. The 2010 NOTAM is not posted yet but the VFR Arrival procedures when you fly your own plane in can be found at http://www.airventur...s_aircraft.html.

[akflyer]

dholly, on 18 January 2010 - 12:31 PM, said:

I can tell you CWA and APL are not economical options from the east. You can try Fond du Lac but I'm guessing that won't be an option either unless you're hopping in on a small regional jet. Last year the one-way from upstate NY to Madison, WI was c-h-e-a-p, only ~$70, about the same as to MKE or GRB. Gotta change planes in Detroit anyway, and it ends up same time but easier to connect into rural and much smaller Madison. All are about the same distance road wise to OSH w/ car rentals but word to wise... if flying commercial into any of these without a ride to OSH, reserve your rental NOW or you will be SOL. There are daily shuttles to OSH from MKE, GRB, APL and FDL if necessary, but not from MSN. Do NOT attempt to play it by ear, so to speak, unless you like to be frustrated. There is a serious s#!t load of people at OSH every year and the experienced ones have all the available resources reserved months in advance. If you're gonna go, 1st timers are advised to check the Planning info at http://www.airventure.org/. The 2010 NOTAM is not posted yet but the VFR Arrival procedures when you fly your own plane in can be found at http://www.airventur...s_aircraft.html.

Thanks Doug!

It seems that frustration is a major part of my everyday life, so what the hell, why would I plan a vacation to be fun and without speed bumps

Joey, when we start firming up plans to head down that way we will for sure keep you in the loop. Would be kick ass to swing by and meet you some place and do a big arrival. I think if i can pull it off there would 3 possibly 4 of us for sure. We may be able to round up a couple of the Alaskan fat bastard builders to head down that way also

[dholly]

akflyer, on 18 January 2010 - 05:05 PM, said:

It seems that frustration is a major part of my everyday life, so what the hell, why would I plan a vacation to be fun and without speed bumps

Well, believe me when I say I'm commiserating with your pain today. Cracked a molar Sat. night somehow and been on a steady course of (4) ibuprofen + (4) shots every (4) hours since. Figures that banks aren't the only businesses closed for MLK day... grrr

[akflyer]

dholly, on 18 January 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

Well, believe me when I say I'm commiserating with your pain today. Cracked a molar Sat. night somehow and been on a steady course of (4) ibuprofen + (4) shots every (4) hours since. Figures that banks aren't the only businesses closed for MLK day... grrr

old trick... crush one of the ibuprofen and put the powder on the tooth and gum.. Then back it with your shots.. maybe a few more per hour are in order to adequately dull the pain

[dholly]

Yeah I tried that trick but it didn't work, that's when I started gargling with Jim Beam. You're gonna laugh but in my agony I went online and looked up toothache remedies. There are definitely some doozies but, since tooth pain will bring the biggest, baddest mofo straight to his knees sobbing for a hammer to knock his tooth out, I tried a few. A paste of finely ground cloves and veggie oil packed around the tooth gave relief but damn near made me toss my bourbon. Peanut butter packed between cheek and gum/tooth worked too, something about the oils I guess. Even better was accupressure or reflexology or whatever it's called... just pinch and hold the web between thumb and index finger, thumb on top and positioned just at and toward the base of the index finger joint. Blocks the bad pain energy up one of the main body meridians it said, whatever, it really worked for me and repeatedly too. Best has been my 4x4x4 regime with periodic warm salt water/baking soda/hydrogen peroxide swishing/gargle and accupressure as needed in between. Gotta say I'm not feeling much pain at the moment and after a snort or two of laughing gas for conscious sedation at the 8:00am dental appt tomorrow I hope all I end up with is a bad hangover. They can keep the tooth.

[akflyer]

If the weather holds, I am thinking about a weekend flight to Fish Creek Lake. Should know in a day or so if I can pull it off.

[SuberAvid]

Hi Leni,

I will try to get out there today if the wind has died down some at the airport. Those Matenuska winds are a pain.

Randy