'89 Avid kit: Help me make a deal!

[C5Engineer 1170]

I've got a set for the mains. 

[chopndrag 226]

For 6-6.00 ? 

[1avidflyer 1983]

If you are serious about wanting the Avid cowl, it will have to wait till I get home around mid March.  JImChuk

Edited 25 Dec 2016 by 1avidflyer

[chopndrag 226]

What's the damage going to be ? I'm not in a hurry just gathering stuff before I do the fabric over and paint it . Oh will it work with a 582 ?

[1avidflyer 1983]

It was covering a 582 before I changed it out.  When I get home, I'll take some pics and send them to you if you still want it.  We can hash out the details then maybe.  JImChuk

[chopndrag 226]

No problem , as long as it is salvageable I'm interested . My wife even gave the thumbs up on the look it would give the plane . 

[EDMO 1078]

I've got a set of 3 pants for a Cessna 150 / 172 that should work - need to check condition after rough trip from Alaska - I am same way, probably cant get to them until warmer weather - got too much stuff to move to get to them.  Actually, its my condition - not so much the weather - Got to find some help.   EDMO

Edited 26 Dec 2016 by EDMO

[lostman 198]

I can use my old one to make it work . Now if I could find wheel pants for a 6-6.00ain tire and 5-5.00 nose I'd be in business 

I believe I have wheel pants for both of those as well. Let me look when I get home tomorrow. 

[3CW 3]

I started Saturday movin' the kit home. Lo 'n behold I found the builder's manual and pull sheets! Oh happy days! Could y'all tell me if the engine mount that came for a 532 will work on a 582? When it comes to engine cowl, I prefer a more conventional one. A cowl like what you would find on a Cessna. There's an Avid on Barnstormers in NY that's fine lookin' plane. Of course it's a ways down the road, but I would consider some sort of swap for that round cowl. It's 3 piece: top, bottom and scoop.

 

[EDMO 1078]

I started Saturday movin' the kit home. Lo 'n behold I found the builder's manual and pull sheets! Oh happy days! Could y'all tell me if the engine mount that came for a 532 will work on a 582? When it comes to engine cowl, I prefer a more conventional one. A cowl like what you would find on a Cessna. There's an Avid on Barnstormers in NY that's fine lookin' plane. Of course it's a ways down the road, but I would consider some sort of swap for that round cowl. It's 3 piece: top, bottom and scoop.

 

Kitfox used the same mount for both engines, although there was one of a later design made - I would think they would be the same for Avids, although the Avid and Kitfox mounts don't interchange - Kitfox engines are plugs up, and Avid is plugs down.   The cowl you have is not the typical Avid - most are smooth and sort of like the Cessnas.   EDMO

[1avidflyer 1983]

Motor mount should work for both engines.  Not sure which mount you have,  there was a later one that was supposed to reduce engine vibrations.  Here is a picture of the original mount.  In this picture, there is an added piece that holds the radiators in place,  that was not original.   The later mounts had 2 pieces of aluminum that bolted to the engine, and used lord mounts to absorb the vibration.  JIChuk

[1avidflyer 1983]

Found a picture of an eze smooth mount.  Notice the rectangle shaped tubing, and the aluminum pieces bolted to the engine mounting bolts.  JImChuk

[chopndrag 226]

I started Saturday movin' the kit home. Lo 'n behold I found the builder's manual and pull sheets! Oh happy days! Could y'all tell me if the engine mount that came for a 532 will work on a 582? When it comes to engine cowl, I prefer a more conventional one. A cowl like what you would find on a Cessna. There's an Avid on Barnstormers in NY that's fine lookin' plane. Of course it's a ways down the road, but I would consider some sort of swap for that round cowl. It's 3 piece: top, bottom and scoop.

 

I have the standard cowl and want a round one . I'd consider a swap . 

[chopndrag 226]

I can use my old one to make it work . Now if I could find wheel pants for a 6-6.00ain tire and 5-5.00 nose I'd be in business 

I believe I have wheel pants for both of those as well. Let me look when I get home tomorrow. 

Let me know when you get to it . 

Edited 27 Dec 2016 by chopndrag
Email me at Chopndrag@yahoo.com when you get pictures of the cowl and wheel pants .

[3CW 3]

Tuesday the 27th we trailered the rest of my kit home. I'm now in the process of inventorying pieces and parts. I have a pretty good idea of how I'm gonna organize, there sure is a lot of "stuff"! The deal wasn't as good as I figured. When I picked it up, Rodney said the prop and spinner stayed with the engine. The deal was, I bought the kit minus the engine. Oh well, live and learn. I did call him back this morning and offered $250 for the prop and spinner. He's thinkin' about it. 

I did find the ser# 504 on one of the pull sheets. Like I said, I'm in process of inventorying everything. I have to weld on the rudder peddle support, which was broken. I don't have a tig welder, so I'll gas weld it. Since it's chrom alloy, I'm sure it's a specific rod. Anyone tell me what it is? The only other damage I've found so far is a small dimple on the flaperon. It's very small, inside of the inborn hinge. Be o.k. I think.

In Barnstormers I did I saw a kit for $2K, damn I gave $3500! Here' pictures of what I have:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EDMO 1078]

Wyatt,  What kind of prop and spinner, and what size?  The members on here can probably tell you if it is worth $250.  Chrome-Moly is 4130 steel, and there is a filler rod of the same number, but I don't dare tread where an educated welder "Akflyer" and others may know more than I do.   Your serial number "504" will probably give someone like 1avidflyer or dholly a clue to which kit you have, and how much gross weight it is designed for.   Another thing to watch out for is if it has aluminum tanks - these were not good.   Keep posting.  Photos are great, but I didn't see any.  EDMO

Edited 29 Dec 2016 by EDMO

[1avidflyer 1983]

I would say the 504# would make it a C model. Pictures are always nice.  They tell more than words often times.   JImChuk

[chopndrag 226]

Went flying yesterday around Weeki Wachee and definitely want wheel pants and a round nose after being called a cassna by another airplane . 

[EDMO 1078]

Went flying yesterday around Weeki Wachee and definitely want wheel pants and a round nose after being called a cassna by another airplane . 

Don't sweat it - High winged planes at a distance are either Cessna or Piper - Just answer the call and tell them what you are, or ignore them - At least, they see you!   EDMO

[chopndrag 226]

Yeah but it still got me wanting the cowl and wheel pants alot more now. 

[3CW 3]

The spinner was a fiberglass blank. Other than being a wooden 2 blade prop, I don't know. That being said if Rodney don't take it, I'll be lookin' for both. Really would prefer a warp 3 blade. Why? The only thing I know is, I like the way it looks. If these pictures work (think I have it, had to click a button in settings), y'all can see the cowl, engine mount and fiberglass fuel tanks.

Still going through parts,

Wyatt

Oh hey! On Barnstormers there' a '07, 17hr 582 blue head for $3900. It come off a parachute. Don'know if it's electric start. I'm interested.

 

[EDMO 1078]

I cant advise on the prop since we don't know what it is - Some like the IVO instead of Warp Drive and say it runs smoother?

There was a 582 on ebay for $1500 - donno anything about it.   One of our members had one in the "For Sale" section.    EDMO

Edited 29 Dec 2016 by EDMO

[chopndrag 226]

I'll take that cowl off your hands . I have the regular one and would love to change it out.

[lv2plyguitar 172]

I have a 582 with everything firewall forward for sale on this site.  Make me an offer.  It has a mark IV mount and cheek radiators which will fit your plane.

Thanks

[1avidflyer 1983]

That cowl sure looks like the one that was on my first Avid.  My guess on the prop is that it may have been a Perry prop.  There is one advertised on here now for 250.  These were the props that Avid supplied with kits sometimes.  I had good performance from the one I had.  A new prop and spinner would be a good price for $250.  If you go with a 3 blade warp, and a B box, that's a pretty heavy prop for that gearbox.  I am getting real good performance with a 2 blade Warp 70" taper tip prop on my Kitfox 1 582 with B box.  Not as smooth as a 3 blade though.  JImChuk